Santoine: Are you speaking as if non-white Germans don’t exist?
It’s not hard to insert a person of color into an all white tale. It’s not like Disney has a great track record of re-telling fairy tales without conflating cultures and customs.
I think Disney should take a break from animated films based on European fairy tales and produce films based on other non-European tales.
Tired of this bs excuse. especially since white people are ALWAYS inserted in settings that don’t make sense for them to be there. But PoC aren’t allowed to exist anywhere because ‘historical accuracy’.
part of me is laughing bc white tears, but at the same time I’m shaking my head & clucking my tongue bc white people seriously get nervous if they’re not everywhere always all the time. forreal apparently this person thinks that “diversity” is a group of all white people & then like a couple of token ethnicks.
Whiteness is a hell of a drug.
WOW WE FINALLY GET A SHOW WITH A RACIALLY DIVERSE CAST AND A BLACK FEMALE LEAD (OUT OF THE ENDLESS ABYSS OF WHITE MEDIA) AND WHITE PEOPLE STILL ASKIN “WHAT ABOUT US” -_-
So this is the film’s version of Finnick Odair.
And this is the picture I drew after reading the books almost two years ago, the week after the first movie came out.
You know what’s really fucking sad? That I was able to predict that fucking spot-on exactly what kind of boy band underwear model candidate they were going to whitewash him into, when what was clearly described in the books and what even then I said was MY headcanon (dark golden skin, bronzed hair, eyes that were a “shocking” sea green, the body of a swimmer/surfer) was something like this
It’s really disgusting sometimes how predictable the industry is. You shouldn’t be able to draw a character months before they’re cast, so exactly that it looks like you were offering an alternate costume and hair design for the very actor they chose - while deviating so wildly from the source material - just by knowing they are going to default to a very specific kind of pretty white boy.
Seriously, it surprises me that people still don’t get that “whitewashing” doesn’t just mean “taking a character of color and turning them white,” but also applies to “focusing disproportionately on the stories of white people,” “glossing over or altering parts of a story to make it more palatable or make white people look better,” and “treating ‘white’ as the default race”
The fact that Disney churns out film after film after film after film about white people with a maximum of one film per ethnicity that showcases a group other than white people is whitewashing.
The fact that the story of “Pocahontas” (not her real name) has been substantially altered so that some of the white people in that story don’t look like such villains, with John Smith younger and Pocahontas significantly older, as well as recounting a popular myth of her saving John Smith from near-execution (a story John Smith made up to make himself look brave, the real Pocahontas told him to stop telling and hated him for using her to make himself look good, and he started to spread like wildfire after she died because she could no longer object) is whitewashing.
The fact that the characters on “How I Met Your Mother” are all white, and they supposedly live in New York City, but apparently associate exclusively with other white people (with the exception of Wayne Brady, who occasionally visits from out of town, and a recurring taxi driver) is whitewashing.
The fact that the Doctor has now been a white man a full twelve times in a row is whitewashing even though the character’s always been white, because the idea that there’s a character whose entire appearance can change in a matter of seconds, yet ends up white twelve times in a row by pure random chance, implies that white is a neutral default and other races are a deviation from that norm.
The fact that people get really angry at the suggestion that characters like Newt Scamander or Hermione Granger could be black because the books never explicitly say “they are black” is whitewashing.
Because that’s the thing. People often assume that when someone’s race isn’t explicitly specified, they’re white. People insist that Katniss Everdeen must be white because it is possible for them to rationalize that idea in their head. People think of white as “raceless” and every other color or ethnicity as “raced,” and that’s what we call “eurocentrism.”
And that’s the thing about whitewashing. It’s this idea that a “person” is white, and a “person of color” is black or asian or arab or latin@ or whatever they might be.
It’s why people call John Stewart the “Black Green Lantern” but just call Hal Jordan the “Green Lantern.” It’s why Miles Morales is called “Black Spider-man” but Peter Parker is just “Spider-man.” If you want to throw gender into the mix, it’s why Jennifer Walters is the “She-Hulk” but Bruce Banner isn’t the “He-Hulk.”
People think “character” is white and “character + black” is black. There is no default race. Community did a whole episode about how a truly raceless character would look something like this monstrosity:
But there’s the tricky part: Once you stop thinking of white characters as “character” and start thinking of them as “character + white,” it becomes really overwhelming how many characters are white.
I mean, I know there’s a kerfuffle over Disney Princesses right now, so let’s look at the list of official Disney Princesses, shall we? That is, let’s look at the list and include everyone’s race, not just the princesses of color:
- Snow White + White
- Cinderella + White
- Aurora + White
- Ariel + White
- Belle + White
- Jasmine + Arab
- Pocahontas + Native American
- Mulan + Asian
- Tiana + Black
- Rapunzel + White
- Merida + White
Soon to be added:
- Anna + White
- Elsa + White
4 of those 13 women are women of color. All four of those women of color are different races than one another. At the moment, the number of white princesses is seven, but it’s about to go up to nine. All nine of those princesses are the same race as one another, despite a few of them being different nationalities, although most of them hail from Western Europe.
And a lot of people are saying “but they’re just accurately portraying the parts of the world those stories are set in!” First of all, the presence of a person of color has never been implausible in any part of the world, in any period of human history. Hell, a bunch of these movies were set after Shakespeare had born, lived, and died, but he still managed to write a play set centuries earlier featuring a black male lead in Italy.
Second, and most importantly, it’s not like they are being assigned a setting at random and have to accommodate it in their character designs. The people at Disney choose to set film after film after film in France and Germany and Denmark.
It’s not that those areas produce more or better fairy tales and folk tales than any of the other continents, it’s that the stories that come from those areas are the ones Disney considers universal.
In the eyes of Disney, there’s a Princess for Black little girls to look up to, a Princess for Native little girls to look up to, a Princess for Arab little girls to look up to, a Princess for Asian little girls to look up to, and nine princesses for all little girls to look up to. It’s no coincidence that in almost all promotional art featuring the “Princess Lineup,” Jasmine, Tiana, Mulan, and Pocahontas are all standing in the back, usually obscured by other
whitePrincesses’ dresses, while the blonde lady brigade stands in the front.
And that is whitewashing.
So I made this thing and I’m pretty proud of it, haha.
There are a LOT of people who are perfectly fine with problematic things that don’t want to have to think about how those things are problematic.
alright let’s see if i’ve got this straight
so, when poc ask for there to be a princess of color in a disney movie, we’re “complaining” and “you just can’t can’t interject poc into a european-white fairy tale!!!!11!1! it just doesnt work that way!!1!1!!” and my favorite, “You want a black princess, tell disney to use an african fairy tale!!!”
ok, fair enough what the fuck ever
but now you’re telling me that hollywood went all the way to africa (because Egypt is an african country in case you forgot), picked up an african legend/tale and are using exclusively white actors in the movie.
based of an african tale
only using white actors/actresses
and its called “gods of egypt”
an african country
yet there cant be a poc in the new disney movie because it’s a “danish fairy tale”
i need a fucking explanation
oh, and fun fact: a danish actor will be in the movie. funny isnt it